End birthright citizenship

Trump vows to end birthright citizenship and pardon US Capitol rioters

Jude Sheerin

President-elect Donald Trump has vowed to end automatic citizenship for anyone born in the US, starting on his first day back in office next month.

"We have to end it. It's ridiculous," he told NBC's Meet the Press in his first broadcast network interview since winning November's election.

Attempts to do so would face significant hurdles, however, as it is enshrined in the US Constitution.

In the wide-ranging interview, recorded on Friday, Trump also said he would pardon those involved in the 2021 Capitol riot and promised to issue "a lot" of executive orders on day one, including on the economy, energy, and immigration.

The Republican also reiterated his mass deportation plans for undocumented immigrants living in the US, but offered to work with Democrats to help those who arrived as children.

While he suggested he would not seek a justice department investigation into Joe Biden after he is inaugurated on 20 January, he said that some of his political adversaries, including lawmakers who investigated the Capitol riot, should be jailed.

Trump was asked whether he would seek to pardon the hundreds of people convicted of involvement in that riot, when supporters of his stormed Congress three months after his defeat in the 2020 election.

"We're going to look at independent cases," he said. "Yeah, but I'm going to be acting very quickly."

"First day," he added.

Trump continued: "You know, by the way, they've been in there for years, and they're in a filthy, disgusting place that shouldn't even be allowed to be open."

The president-elect made other news in the NBC interview aired on Sunday:

• He offered a caveat on whether he would keep the US in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (Nato): "If they're paying their bills, and if I think they're doing a fair - they're treating us fairly, the answer is absolutely, I'd stay with Nato"
• Trump said he would not seek to impose restrictions on abortion pills, though when asked to make a guarantee, he added: "Well, I commit. I mean... things change"
• The Republican said Ukraine should "probably" expect less aid when he returns to the White House
• Trump said he thinks "somebody has to find out" if there is a link between autism and childhood vaccines - an idea that has been ruled out by multiple studies around the world. Trump suggested his nominee for health secretary, vaccine sceptic Robert F Kennedy Jr, would look into the matter
• The president-elect repeated his promise that he will not seek to cut Social Security, nor raise its eligibility age, though he said he would make it "more efficient", without offering further details
• Pressed on whether his plan to impose tariffs on imports from major US trading partners would raise consumer prices for Americans, he said: "I can't guarantee anything. I can't guarantee tomorrow"

On the subject of immigration, Trump told NBC he would seek through executive action to end so-called birthright citizenship, which entitles anyone born in the US to an American passport, even if their parents were born elsewhere.

Birthright citizenship stems from the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution, which states that "all persons born" in the United States "are citizens of the United States".

Though he has vowed to end the practice, attempts to do so would face significant legal hurdles, and any executive order attempting to do so would likely immediately be overturned in court.

The bar to amend the Constitution is extremely high and requires approval from two-thirds of Congress, in both the House and Senate. It must also be ratified by three-fourths of states.

In the interview, Trump also said he would follow through on his campaign pledge to deport undocumented immigrants, including those with family members who are US citizens.

"I don't want to be breaking up families," he said, "so the only way you don't break up the family is you keep them together and you have to send them all back."

Trump also said he wants to work with Congress to help "Dreamers", undocumented immigrants who were shielded under an Obama-era programme, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, which Trump once attempted to scrap.

"I will work with the Democrats on a plan," he said, adding that some of these immigrants have found good jobs and started businesses.

Trump seemed to offer mixed signals on whether he would follow through on his repeated vows to seek retribution against political adversaries.

Outgoing US President Joe Biden this week issued a sweeping pardon to his criminally convicted son, Hunter. The Democrat is reported to be considering other blanket pardons for political allies before he leaves office next month.

Trump seemed to indicate that he would not seek a special counsel investigation into Biden and his family, as he once vowed.

"I'm not looking to go back into the past," he said. "I'm looking to make our country successful. Retribution will be through success."

But he also said that members of the now-defunct, Democratic-led House of Representatives committee that investigated him "should go to jail".

One member of the panel, former Republican congresswoman Liz Cheney, hit back at Trump on Sunday.

She said his comment that members of the committee should be jailed was a "continuation of his assault on the rule of law and the foundations of our republic".

In his NBC interview Trump also said he would not direct the FBI to pursue investigations against his foes.

But he told the network: "If they were crooked, if they did something wrong, if they have broken the law, probably.

"They went after me. You know, they went after me, and I did nothing wrong."