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April 25, 2019

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Mulvaney: 'I don't recall' telling staffers not to mention election security to Trump

By CAITLIN OPRYSKO and NANCY COOK

Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said Wednesday he doesn't recall instructing aides to keep discussions about election security off President Donald Trump’s radar, after The New York Times reported Mulvaney had said the topic "should be kept below his level.”

The Times reported that the subject of Russian election meddling was such a sensitive subject for the president that in one meeting involving former Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen the acting chief “made it clear that Mr. Trump still equated any public discussion of malign Russian election activity with questions about the legitimacy of his victory.”

A senior administration official told the Times that Mulvaney said discussing efforts to secure the 2020 presidential election with Trump “wasn’t a great subject and should be kept below his level.”

"I don't recall anything along those lines happening in any meeting," Mulvaney said in a statement Wednesday, and he said the White House is working to ensure neither Russia nor any other foreign adversary interferes in the 2020 vote.

"Unlike the Obama administration, who knew about Russian actions in 2014 and did nothing, the Trump administration will not tolerate foreign interference in our elections, and we've already taken many steps to prevent it in the future,” he said.

A person close to Nielsen said she did not recall the incident reported by the Times. But an administration official said there was frustration at the agency level with the White House’s approach to fighting Russian interference in U.S. elections.

The Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, FBI and intelligence agencies have all separately ramped up efforts to combat foreign meddling in elections. But the administration official said the agencies operate in silos and need better coordination. The official said the chief of staff's office under John Kelly and Mulvaney and the National Security Council have all been reluctant to elevate the issue to Trump.

National Security Council spokesman Garrett Marquis rejected that criticism. “National Security Council staff leads the regular and continuous coordination of the whole-of-government approach to addressing foreign malign influence and ensuring election security. Any suggestion that this Administration is giving less than a full throated effort to secure America’s elections is patently false,” Marquis said in a statement.

Some people close to the president have downplayed Russia's interference. On Tuesday, Trump adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner downplayed the effects of Russia’s efforts in 2016, arguing that the complex operation detailed by Mueller amounted to “a couple Facebook ads” and that the ensuing investigation into possible coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign had been far more harmful to democracy.

And over the weekend, Trump personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani appeared to defend the Trump campaign for its interest in emails stolen from the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, the theft of which the intelligence community has attributed to Russia.

“There's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians,” he said Sunday, though he added: “It depends on where it came from. It depends on where it came from.”

Election security has taken on greater urgency after the release of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report detailing Russia’s efforts to sow discord and disrupt the 2016 presidential election. Administration officials have said similar efforts to meddle took place before the midterm elections last fall and have warned that Russia is likely to try and disrupt the presidential election next year.

In this year’s Worldwide Threat Assessment, intelligence officials cited “intensifying online efforts to influence and interfere with elections here and abroad” as one of the top security threats facing the U.S., and experts have warned that Russia is unlikely to use the same playbook in 2020 that it did in 2016.

Mulvaney outlined some of the Trump administration’s efforts to shore up election security ahead of 2020.

“For the first time in history, state, local and federal governments have coordinated in all 50 states to share intelligence,” he said, adding, “We've broadened our efforts to combat meddling by engaging the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice and the FBI, among others, and we have even conducted security breach training drills to ensure preparedness.”

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